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MARIE: Welcome to Dangerously Good Stories, formerly Intentional Documentary. You have no idea how ecstatic I am to be back, recording, and under this new name!
I will tell you everything, but before we move any further I want you to bookmark a page that will be very helpful for you.
That page will have a variety of questions and story prompts and more importantly opportunities for you to submit your tiny stories to be added into this show.
⭐️ Imagine listening to an episode on a topic that you’re wondering about what stories other people have around this, what they’re doing with them, and all of those things. Instead of only hearing from me, you’ll hear from a whole collective of people around the world with their tiny stories on that topic.
At least, that’s my goal for this next direction of this show. It could be really amazing for all of us, so go to dangerouslygoodstories.com/podcast and get that page bookmarked.
I’ll tell you the rest of the changes after this…
[Intro music plays]
Alright. I hope you landed on that page. Bookmarked it somewhere. Just in case: dangerouslygoodstories.com/podcast
[00:02:00] Now, I’m going to go over what Dangerously Good Stories are (yes, you have them!), what they mean, why they matter, and why I changed this podcast up.
Really, this is a loaded question. In short:
Dangerously Good Stories are micro-stories. They’re your personal, tiny stories. They might even feel like mere moments as opposed to a full-blown “stories.” They’re the stuff that make up your values.
Here’s what I mean by that. Everyone says, “I value my family.” Inside that word “family,” you have an abundance of teeny, tiny stories. So, when you say, “I value my family,” you might feel neutral to maybe a little bit of an emotional charge. Then, when you go deeper and you start to dissect + excavate + pull apart all of the stuff that makes that family word mean something to you…
…it’s those tiny stories that really give you that emotional charge.
That’s what dangerously good stories are. They’re the tiny stories within those core value words.
🔥 I’m planning on an episode on value words, and we’re going to work through that together. Expect to come out within the next month, but for now, just stick with me.
[00:03:59] When you connect to your dangerously good stories, you see what a badass you are. I mean, they have the power to encourage you to be more courageous, to take brave, bold steps against the grain. Against the status quo. Against the “things, most people should do,” and all of that conditioning we pick up in our lifetime.
They encourage you to stop defaulting to autopilot. These stories encourage you to really live. I know this sounds so cliche and so trendy right now, but I’m going there… These stories encourage you to live your truth—to live your best life. When you follow them, they build up your self-trust and your resilience.
These stories add meaningfulness, they add joy, healing and celebration into your day to day life. And the more that you lean on them, the less you have to look outside of yourself for validation, for advice and things, because (like I said) you grow your self-trust and resilience… amazing right?!
[00:05:27] Here’s a quick, very, very simple example. This has less to do with my personal choices that feel big and bold and courageous, and more about a very simple way that you can use your most meaningful stories to add more meaningfulness into your day to day.
My husband, Dave built me a cabin in the woods about a year ago. It’s what I use for my office, but it’s so much more, I practically live in here more than I do in my own house. Now, if you’ve listened to me for any length of time, you know that when I was a newborn, my dad bought a cabin for our family.
I spent my whole childhood going up to this family cabin and it’s one of the top, treasured memories that I have. So as this cabin (that I’m sitting in, my cabin) was being built last year, I thought, ‘What do I love about the family cabin?’ I wanted to make this cabin my own, and also, I wanted to pull from the way I feel inside about my family’s cabin (the one I grew up in), because it’s such a meaningful part of my life.
It’s been a place that makes me feel alive, close to nature. I’m grounded. I feel like it’s a place where I have been able to go and be untethered to… reality, I guess. I’ve been able to dream and use my imagination and THINK a little bit differently (and more clearly) than I do when I’m sitting at home. Of course, a lot of that stems from the natural state that you’re in when you’re a child—being free to run and play and all of that.
That place has always been a bit of a respite. So I wanted to give this cabin—knowing that it’s on my property, where I live every day and it’s also my office—I wanted to pull from how I feel at the family cabin into this. So I asked myself, “What do I love about the family cabin? How do I see it in my mind?”
Meaning, what are the details in the vivid mental image that’s in my mind when I think about the family cabin? From there, I asked myself, “How can I create little anchors of meaningfulness of that cabin in this new environment?”
As so silly and simple as it sounds… when I pictured my family cabin, I thought about what that view looks like when I look out the big picture window. The cabin is in the forest. It’s on a lake. There’s all these beautiful things, and the thing, the detail that I saw so vividly was a thermometer.
My dad nailed this outdoor thermometer onto a tree, years ago. I can’t even remember when it wasn’t there. I guess the word would be analog? It’s not digital. It’s got hands like a clock in it—this red needle that moves around.
That is the image that popped into my head.
So one of the first things I purchased for my cabin was this outdoor thermometer. Funny enough, it’s actually not outside. I have it inside the cabin, because I’m always so curious what the temperature is in here.
When I see it, I don’t always necessarily think of the cabin. Sometimes I just literally look at the temperature and there’s nothing more to it, but it is such a familiar action that it adds to the environment. It adds to the feeling in this environment that I wanted to create—that I pulled from something highly meaningful and familiar.
[00:10:10] The point is, that’s what I mean by adding meaningfulness and joy. It’s honing in to those details of who you are. Of who you want to become and amplifying those grounding details. And also in some instances, healing, the things that we carry with us. Even though I love the cabin and it’s this treasured memory…
…it also brings a bit of grief up, because there are parts that I am sad have changed and have come to an end. Not to mention, we all have some scars, like real hurt and pain that goes beyond the natural evolution and change that we experienced in our life as things come to a close and end.
We all have some scars that aren’t completely healed yet. Going into our stories, we can find that peace and healing that we need. It’s such a beautiful way to live. It’s like you’re lighter. You don’t have as much heaviness that you’re carrying with you.
[00:11:26] If you were to sit down and make a list of all the stories you’ve experienced in your life up until now, which I highly recommend that you start (I call it a tiny story list), you’d probably have a thousand stories on that list!
It might be difficult to get to that 1000, because we tend to overlook a lot of areas in our life—but it adds up pretty freaking quick.
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So I created this practice back in 2017. If you’ve listened awhile, you’ve heard me talk about it before. It’s a five-part practice. It’s a framework to go into your stories and see what opportunities are there.
You can see why you see the world the way that you see, like what behaviors, what beliefs have you adopted because of that story? What meanings did you give that story? Things like that.
The quick rundown of the practice is: observation, preservation, expression, which has two sides, connection, and cultivation.
I’m not going to go into the nitty-gritty details, because I have past episodes on that. Plus, there’s a video that you can jump into right after this episode, that details each of those elements. And it’s free. It’s this:
All in all, I call doing this, doing the practice: doing your story work. It’s something I believe to the core is just as every bit as important as exercising or meditation and taking care of your mental health. Story work is a way to care for your mental health.
[00:13:28] When you’re working on your stories, that’s when you uncover the ones that are your dangerously good stories. Not all of them are dangerously good, but when you find the ones that are, they will change your life. They’ve changed mine. I have witnessed them change the people that I have worked with in many different ways. I’ll tell you about that more as we go.
What I’ve seen as a result from this story work is why I had to shift this show from Intentional Documentary to Dangerously Good Stories.
For one, I documented myself awake. I started this 365 photo a day project of my daughter when she was born back in 2011. As this episode comes out, she’s almost turning 10 years old. You guys it’s crazy!!
Doing that project propelled me into trying to be a professional photographer. Through practice and reflection, I noticed how I naturally gravitated to photographing real, in the moment stories… but not just any stories. I was particularly drawn to types of stories that others typically aren’t paying attention to.
(Professional photographers can learn more about that process here)
It’s not because they’re clueless. It’s that most likely they’re details that are so familiar that they go overlooked and sort of dismissed.
I wish I had this quote in front of me, but there’s this book, A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger.
[00:15:22] In this book, the author had mentioned how our brains sort of make these very fast decisions of: this matters, this doesn’t. Pay attention to this and ignore the rest.
Details that aren’t relevant to the moving parts of your day, and what you’re focused on, are easily overlooked.
Furthermore, we get into the habit of not paying much attention to the world around us. Neurologists have found that our brains are hardwired to quickly categorize, filter, and even ignore some of the massive amounts of stimuli coming at us every moment. A nice description of this phenomenon comes from Maura O’Neill, the chief innovation officer for USAID, a government agency focused on social problems. In her writing, O’Neill observed, “Our brains have evolved to dump most of what we see, quickly categorize the rest, and file it away in our long term memory using our brain’s equivalent of the Dewey Decimal system.”As O’Neill notes, this behavior developed for practical reasons. Our ancestors needed to quickly determine if something was coming at them was friendly or harmful; today, we still need to do that at times, though we’re more often concerned, in this info-rich environment, with trying to sort what’s new and important from what’s known or extraneous. We make judgements in fractions of a second: This I’ll pay attention to, everything else I’ll ignore because (a) it doesn’t concern / interest me or (b) I already know about it.We make that judgement about what’s “known” based on everything we’ve experienced already—and as O’Neill notes, “the more we see, hear, touch, or smell something, the more hard-wired in our brain it becomes.” We routinely “default to the set of knowledge and experience each one of us has.”This works well under most circumstances, but when we wish to move beyond that default setting—to consider new ideas and possibilities, to break from habitual thinking and expand upon our existing knowledge—it helps if we can let go of what we know, just temporarily. You have to be adventurous enough (and humble enough) to enter the “know nothing” zone of a constant questioner.Excerpt from A More Beautiful Question: The Power of Inquiry to Spark Breakthrough Ideas by Warren Berger
So for me, picking up on some of those details has resulted in making these highly meaningful, recognizable, and familiar photographs for myself and for other people.
[00:16:00] Outside of photography, this new way of seeing became a bit of a game and I still play it to this day, even though it’s been years. It’s been a gift.
If you can consciously connect with the pieces of your life that are the most meaningful pieces in real time, I believe it’s like giving yourself more time for your life. It’s time spent fully awake for your life.
It’s not the time when you look back in hindsight and you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I really loved that.” You know what I mean?
It’s being present, but rising to a degree above presence—to zoom out. You’re in the moment and you’re also looking at the moment from a zoomed out view, saying, “Wow, this matters. This is amazing,” in real time.
It’s experiencing these little moments of serendipity—you’re noticing moments, unexpectedly, and feeling this cathartic surge of gratitude + meaningfulness + fulfillment. It feels like this overwhelming amount of love all at once… and sometimes it’s not all sunshine and rainbows, because there’s definitely things we’ll notice in our life that aren’t all happy, happy, joy, joy. That’s part of the human experience. Isn’t it?
Sometimes walking through that pain and really facing it helps us be alive and make better decisions from a clearer, more true place… as opposed to when we avoid all the bad stuff.
I hope that makes sense. When you’re actively trying to see in this way, it puts the odds of experiencing more meaningfulness and aliveliness in your day-to-day life in your favor rather than leaving it to chance.
[00:18:02] Before Dangerously Good Stories, I spent the last five—well, actually it was 2014 when I started it, so six years—building up Fearless and Framed. It started out as helping other photographers shoot with a more documentary approach. Then I stepped into this marketing educator role and helped a lot of photographers get clear on why they love this approach to photography and sharing that with their communities.
It was wonderful and meaningful at a point in my life when I really cared about giving that kind of photography to people. And, at the end of the day, I was helping photographers do the photography that lit them up. But, when I helped people, these photographers with marketing, I could also see how they really needed to get to know who they are again.
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[00:19:19] Question for you:
If I were to ask you right now to join me in working on your stories in my program, Dangerously Good Storytellers.
Say you saw what that includes, all the bells and whistles, you saw the price and you felt like, “Oh, I could afford that. It might be a little bit of a stretch right now, but it’s doable.”
Apart from cost, what would be your first gut reaction to the invitation to work on your stories?
Why can’t you work on your stories right now?
I’m asking, because (so far in my experience) it seems like selling the promise of becoming better at marketing has been a far easier sell than the promise of digging into your stories and having unexpected, awesome results come up.
People think they know what they want. People think they know what they need. In the business world, people are like, “Well, if I could just get a handle on my marketing and could get more clients and customers, I’ll make more money, and then I’m going to be happier. I’ll be able to get the things that I want; do the things I want. I’ll feel fulfilled.”
In fact, reflect on that right now…
Think about it:
⇢ What are the things that you’re working towards?
⇢ And, why are you working towards them?
⇢ Ultimately, what’s the big emotion you believe you’re going to feel in doing that?
⇢ Do you feel like you are going to feel fulfilled?
⇢ Do you feel like you’re going to be happy?
Whatever it is, I’d actually love to know.
Maybe I’ll add something about that on the podcast page.
The point is, when I saw photographers who wanted help with marketing, and they also needed to reconnect with who they are, often the work I did with them really helped them define their “why” (why they were doing this to begin with). It was an emotional time for them in a good way, because it became clear like, “Oh my gosh, this is why this matters to me,” and it was beautiful.
The downside to being in that place: you haven’t quite built up the self-actualization, the self-trust in yourself, or the resilience for when you meet potential client objections—which is definitely going to happen.
So, even though I was still sort of helping people in that area, it still takes the person on the other side—the student—to go out and take big, bold steps.
I found that a lot of people wanted to hide. They were wanting to post on social media three times a week, do a newsletter once a month, continue sharing photos nonstop, send people to their website where they’ve got really great copy, and have inquiries land in their inbox. They weren’t necessarily ready to go out and have sales conversations and actually practice the art of sales. Going out and speaking with people, because that’s the only way that your marketing content is going to have the feedback that’ll make your marketing content actually influential to people reading it.
They wanted to be behind the computer and have people come to them.
So I felt like I had to move on and work with people on their personal stories instead of going directly into marketing.
It takes a certain level of self-trust and self-confidence, and—I don’t mean this in an egocentric way, but—really accepting and loving who you are and all the paths that led you to where you’re at today.
All of that matters when you are expressing yourself whether online or in person. I felt like the people I was working with—they just weren’t quite there yet. By going into personal stories first, I can help them get there quicker and now I can help a vast community of people from professionals to business owners, to students, as young as the teenage years.
I can help more photographers, designers, business coaches, members of Congress… I’ve worked with a couple of teachers recently who are using their stories in the classroom… I mean, there are so many ways your personal stories can be a game changer in your professional life—in your career and also in your life.
[00:24:57] Back to what I was saying about people easy to buy into the promise of marketing, because they believe, “well, if I get my marketing handled and selling handled, I’ll get more clients, I’ll get more money. Then I’ll finally feel fulfilled. I’ll have this business that makes me so happy,” or whatever… When we create that storyline, that pathway in our brain, we end up starting somewhere that doesn’t exactly serve us.
What’s been frustrating for me: seeing these people need help in their personal stories, but they’re so white-knuckle gripped on the idea that they need help on marketing and selling, that they need to grow their business, and that will solve all their problems.
I’m like, “Working on your stories will help your business!”
That’s why I decided I’ve got to rip the bandaid off and own it. Own what I believe in.
That’s what I’m asking you to do anyway.
So that’s how I transitioned from Intentional Documentary and F&F to Dangerously Good Stories.
[00:26:00] Moving forward, a lot of threads in the Intentional Documentary podcast: meaningfulness, personal stories, documenting, photography, and business… A lot of those will continue under Dangerously Good Stories. I think it’ll only be different in that we’ll talk a bit less about being photographers and running a photography business and making photographs. We’re going to amplify the conversation around our stories.
We’re still going to be rooted in meaningfulness, which is why I felt like we could continue this conversation under a new name, as opposed to coming out with a brand new show, starting at episode number one. Again, it made sense because I felt newer listeners will still find value if they find the show now or in a few episodes from now and they end up going back to old episodes. Past listeners, you’re still going to love this show in the new direction.
[00:27:24] I think the big question is: will this [show] help my business? Will this podcast still have episodes that will give me ideas for marketing selling, business, running a business, all of that. The answer is: yes.
I’m not going to stray away from that because number one, I’m a business owner and I want to be able to come here and talk about things that I’m working on. Two, even if you don’t own a business, you probably have some sort of a job or career. I guarantee you that these more business-centric episodes will still help you.
One – They’ve allowed me to connect on a very rich, memorable, high level with my audience—whether that’s with customers, potential customers, listeners of this podcast, followers on Instagram, whoever.
I’ve found that the more I share the life I’m living, without the business hat on, the more they see me and my brand as a whole person. I think that grows their level of trust in me.
People tag me in something that they have seen on the internet and it reminds them of me. 90% of the time, it has nothing to do with my business, but it’s the way that they have seen me as a person.
The beautiful part is that even though they’re starting to see me as a whole person, instead of just a professional, it’s not taking away from the respect that they have for me as a professional. If anything, I believe it’s strengthened it.
Two – Being so acquainted with my personal stories has helped me show up better and stronger for my audience.
Going back to what I was saying about that necessary self-trust and self confidence, I think it’s something people pick up on. They want to have that for themselves and it’s helped me. Their reaction to the way I share my stories has helped me be a better leader…
…even though I’m cringing. Literally, I winced as I said, “leader,” because I don’t want to make anyone feel like I’m uphere and you’re down here. It’s not like that. I’m a regular person and trying to figure this life out, just like everybody else.
I just so happen to have found this tool, personal stories, that seem to really freaking help in a lot of different ways and I want to share that with you! I want to guide you through that and yeah, because it’s not something you’re aware of, I want to lead you through that. But I don’t see myself as this huge guru, I guess is the best way to put it.
So yes, we’re going to have some business conversations as well. Those [biz-centric] conversations are going to help you in your career and even in your family and your relationships as well, because working with your business audience is a lot like tending to the audience of the people in your real life.
I’m only one person. My experiences and perspectives are unique only to me. As much as I love sharing them (and will continue to do so), I love hearing what you have to say about what I’ve shared, and I’ve connected with many of you on these common things that we have shared… I also want to share your stories! Especially, the ones that I don’t really relate to, because you’ll help us reach people who need to hear the message of how important their story work is and how powerful their personal stories can be.
So, the dangerouslygoodstories.com/podcast page was set up for both of us.
It’s a place for us to shape, future episodes and gauge which guests I should be trying to get on for you. It’s a place for you to ask questions about all this stuff. The most exciting piece of this: there’s a spot for you to share your tiny stories.
You will have the opportunity to send in your stories through a short audio, so that I can add you into the show when it makes sense. We can have a real collective going on. I mean, how cool would that be?
I’m just keeping my fingers crossed over here that you, yes, I’m talking to you listening, will actually take me up on that offer!
[00:32:40] Another new thing to the show is that I’m going to lower the frequency of episodes being released. In the past, we did this as a weekly show. This time I’m aiming for one show per month.
I’m sure when I feel inspired, I’ll add in some tiny, short mini episodes, but I’m going for one. When I was doing this show weekly, and had somebody editing the podcast episodes, it felt like I would get an idea, I would do the bare minimum to put an episode together, and get it out the door. I rushed through and often was questioning like, “oh my gosh, I could make this so much better. This is not as good as it could be.” Maybe you felt that maybe, you didn’t. I felt for me, and my own integrity, that I want to experiment what it could be like to give you one kick ass show per month.
I mean, you could take the entire month to listen to it bit by bit if you need to. But on my end, I feel like I am going to create these little masterpieces that I’m really proud of. I hope it inspires you to share it out with more people and things like that. So, we’re going to play with that.
We’re going to continue with homework prompts and challenges—that’s nothing new to this podcast.
⇢ We will go into noticing stories in all areas of your life.
⇢ We will talk about how to read your stories for priceless insights. Meaning, you’re going to look at your stories beyond this nostalgic walk down memory lane.
⇢ We will talk about finding those opportunities within your stories, opportunities for healing growth, self-awareness, meaningfulness, and more.
⇢ Along the way, I’ll give you plenty of gentle kind nudges to practice your story work—even in your busy life, because we’re all busy, aren’t we?
⇢ to share some of my stories, how I processed and investigated them, what I’ve done with those stories.
⇢ do the same for guests who we have on and people who I’ve worked with
⇢ I’ll probably even share things I’ve found helpful. Things like a quote from a book or a book itself, like a book recommendation, things like that. I feel like there’s not enough of that in podcasting. It’s all about the host and their secrets and tips and things like that. Whereas like I said, I am not a guru.
I’m learning about this stuff, as much as I’m sharing about this stuff—and I really mean it. You should see the hoarding… the collection of books and classes and resources and things. I’ve been addicted to all things personal stories and meaningfulness and aliveliness. So I want to share some of those resources and people who have been helping and inspiring me, of course, giving credit where credit is due.
⇢ We’re focused on all aspects of our lives. I mean, how many podcasts are out there about your children or about becoming a better woman or a better adult or whatever? We’re going to look at your childhood, your young adulthood, your job history, education, friendships, your nuclear family, extended family, neighbors, mentors, love stories, so many different things.
⇢ We will have conversations with people like journalists, photographers, storytelling, coaches, speakers, business owners, business coaches, memory keepers, family historians, filmmakers, therapists, authors, writers, and more.
If you have someone in mind for the show, please tell me. Go to that page, tell me their name, and we’ll see if we can get them on.
[00:36:32] My goal is that we create a potluck of rich ideas for unearthing and repurposing our stories for our lives and businesses.
Take what you like, leave what you don’t.
I’m hoping to keep this kind of workshoppy with a foundation of storytelling—we’ll focus on a topic and you’ll have actionable steps and advice to follow.
⇢ I’ve been working on this story binder. I can’t wait to share that with you.
⇢ We’ll definitely do some story unearthing sessions, where I rapid-fire some prompts at you and you add these stories to what’s called a tiny story list. We’ll get into that later.
⇢ And I’d really love to see some live story coaching going on here, where we can get on a call and hash out a story that maybe you’ve been stuck on—you’re not really sure the meaning of it or what you might want to do with it or what you don’t want to do with it. We can talk it out, record it for the show and it’s going to help all of us.
I think that covers it.
Expect lots of actionable story talk, thought-provoking questions and perspectives, and the rest… I’m thinking we’re going to keep unexpected and trust that this show will go where we grow together.
I don’t want to box us in and to X, Y, and Z topics. You know what I mean?
So this is a starting point for what’s ahead and we’ll see where it goes.
[00:38:03] My one homework question for you is about your current energy.
On a scale of one to 10:
One being you’re waking up groggy, still tired. You’re feeling like it would be so easy to just go back to bed—to roll over and fall right back to sleep—and you lay there thinking,
“Ugh! What do I have to do today?”
Just as you start your day, you’re already not looking forward to it.
To 10 being, “What do I get to do today?”
You are practically jumping out of bed. You’re so excited to get up and do and live your life. It’s not this, “I better get up and get shit done,” productivity, kind of an attitude. It’s more like an, “Oh my gosh, pinch me. I cannot even believe I get to do all these things and that this is my life!” It’s amazing and you’re excited simply to live.
A little sidebar here: This level of 10 is not an expectation for us to live in day in and day out, because we’re human. Low days, low energy… it’s all part of the experience.
On average, think between 1 and 10. Where do you land most often?
Do you feel like you’re leaning towards a 1?
Where it’s the “Ugh, what do I have to do?” kind of grumbly attitude.
You’re waiting for the next day off or the next Saturday or the next vacation or the next school day or whatever it is. You’re waiting, because that’s when you feel like finally you get to __________ (fill in the blank with whatever you’re feeling you need right now). That’s when you’ll finally get to enjoy your life. That’s when you’ll finally slow down. That’s when you’ll finally immerse yourself in meaningful moments and be present or whatever.
[00:40:33] Or, are you closer to the 10?
Where you’re so excited about life that you’re having a hard time sleeping until six or 7:00 AM, because your brain is waking you up so excited to do all the things—and you can’t possibly go back to sleep with this wealth tap of ideas pouring out of you at any given moment?! And it’s a wild ride?!
[00:41:00] For me, I’m closer to that 10 mark than I probably have ever been in my life and I guarantee it’s because of doing this story work, putting what comes up into action, and repeating.
[00:41:21] And that’s what I really hope for each person listening, especially you.
I want to move every person up at least 2% on that 1-10 scale and we’re going to do that. We’re going to do that together and we’re going to do that through our stories.
[00:41:39] All right, I’m going to stop talking. Today as I record this episode, it is September 30th, 2021. It’s International Podcast Day. I have a couple episodes I’ve been working on:
One is about those core values and finding those tiny stories within them.
The second just sort of came up. It’s unlike any episode I’ve ever done on this show before—taking a current news story, which is the Gabby Petito missing persons case (now homicide case), and talking about the power of story, missing persons in general, and a whole bunch of interesting things that I’ve learned through following this case.
So while you’re waiting for those episodes to pop into your podcast player, please go to dangerouslygoodstories.com/podcast so that you can join in the conversation before we have these episodes released.
[00:43:15] So yeah, that about does it.
Thank you so much for listening. If you’ve been listening since the start of Intentional Documentary, or somewhere along the way, thank you from the bottom of my heart for sticking with me and for sharing these episodes out. For those of you who have left a review in iTunes, I appreciate you. I’m so, so excited to be back and to continue this podcast for you.
Stay awake for your stories. I’ll talk to you soon.
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